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Microsoft Zune 2nd Generation 80GB Media Player - Black

Microsoft Zune 2nd Generation 80GB Media Player - Black

Internal Hard Drive, FM Tuner - MPN: HPA00001

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Description: For uncompromised portable video and audio playback, Zune 80GB combines a beautiful 3.2-inch screen, touch controls, wireless capabilities and premium headphones with storage for up to 20,000 songs, 25,000 pictures or 250 hours of video. Enjoy your music, videos, pictures an... read more

For uncompromised portable video and audio playback, Zune 80GB combines a beautiful 3.2-inch screen, touch controls, wireless capabilities and premium headphones with storage for up to 20,000 songs, 25,000 pictures or 250 hours of video. Enjoy your music, videos, pictures and podcasts — wherever and whenever you want. Listen to your favorite radio station with the built-in FM tuner or wirelessly share tracks with your friends to discover new music on the go. Browse the Zune Marketplace to choose from millions of songs, albums, DRM-free MP3s, music videos, podcasts and more. minimize
 
 

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Great player with some of the most atrocious software ever......

Started Dec 12, 2007

Strengths: Great Player w/ ample HD space, Great interface, Huge Screen, Wifi capability w/ wireless sync, Radio Tuner, Touchpad interface improvement, ZUNE originals!

Weaknesses: Horrendous software, Click Wheel is still a better interface

After using my 5th Generation iPod's screen stopped working just a little above 1 year (conveniently out of warranty) I decided that I didn't want to buy another apple product for my next mp3 player. The Zune 2 had just come out and the 80GB of space was quite appealing (upgrade from 30GB) and the player seemed rather improved from the first Bricky Zune. After testing the interface in the store and checking the size I was quite convinced this would be my next mp3 player. What really sealed the deal was the Zune Originals offer from MS that allowed you to laser etch a custom picture from a set # of artists onto the back of the player.

So I waited anxiously for my Zune (shipped direct from the factory in China). When it arrived the player was solid as expected and the interface was smooth..... And then everything went downhill from there. I started by simply installing the Zune software and when that was done I selected my music folders. First thing I noticed was that the ways to manipulate the sorting were incredibly limited compared to ITunes. You couldn't sort by priorities (like Album> Artist). So I either had to choose between browsing artists (where the albums would be scatted around) or by album (where the artists were scattered throughout the whole list). To top things off in browse mode, things are jumbled in the album view where it splinters off albums if you have various artists or feat. artists in a single album... Not great. Of course this could be overcome by a simple search right? Nope... the search function is horrible and non-interactive. It's not even close to as smooth as the itunes search and from the search page you cannot sync songs directly from there. Either way it makes organizing any collection a complete pain. Second off the Zune doesn't double as a portable HD if you need it while the Ipod does. And third, I often bring my mp3 player to work to play music on my PC (since my work PC has limited HD Space). For some obscure reason the Zune software does not play songs directly off your Zune unless you copy them to your HD collection first (defeating the purpose of doing it in the first place).

It really upsets me that Microsoft had a great chance to take a customer away from Apple's Ipod reign and completely screwed it up with horrible software. I wanted to enjoy the zune but it's just been a miserable experience so far that I can't recommend to anyone (esp since it's about the same price as the ipod classic). Sure, things might improve in the future and the software might be updated, but I wouldn't buy this player and bank on that. I'm even tempted now to sell my Zune at a loss on ebay and go buy another iPod so I can use Itunes again (which I don't particularly like all that much to begin with). I could go on about the positive aspects like the wireless sync and the social aspect, but really it's all just overshadowed by pure un-useability..... It's sad how they didn't even get the fundamentals correct with the software. Here's to hopping for an improvement (and I'll update my review if one comes).



           
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Replied Dec 16, 2007

Clickwheel a better interface? Everywhere I've read that's not the case, and every time I've used an iPod the Clickwheel comes in as the biggest negative of them all, especially compared to the Zune touchpad. iPod clickwheel is a joke, was it made for a 90 year old with sausage fingers or what? And then the screen must have been made for a 10 year old with perfect eye sight because I can't hardly read it, it's just not consistent in the design which I must say is completely lacking. I thought Apple was supposed to be the master of usability but after playing with iPods many times, I must say this is not true.

The software does do the exact types of sorting you're looking for also, I've been sorting by Artist> Album since before I even had my Zune, only a day before though. I would definitely recommend downloading the software and taking it for a test drive before taking it from me or the click-disabled. I must say the software is extremely simplified which is a benefit by the way. It doesn't have all the features that you don't need anyway, this makes it less confusing and easy to use unlike the cluttered iTunes software which fits perfectly with the bad design of the iPod. iPod + iTunes = 100% disappointment. This is true for me after I downloaded the iTunes software and can't figure out how to do a single thing.

I'm tired of all this so I ask you please download the software, doesn't cost and won't pollute your computer like iTunes does (what a surprise coming from Microsoft, huh?). Also, go to the store and place the new Zune next to the iPod (all generations!) and compare, which one is really better? The answer will be quite obvious.

One agreement I have is the best place to get your Zune, definitely on the Zune originals site. Free engraved picture and text, just pay the tax and they'll even ship it to you free.

Hope this puts some truth into the actual capabilities of the software and gets some people to actually do some comparison shopping rather than buying whatever everybody else is buying, no more cattle herding Apple!

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Replied Jan 5, 2008

You make bad references to the Zune's Browse function and compare it to iTunes... which is similar to Zune's List function. Have you tried using List as opposed to Browse? And where do you work; why do they allow you to listen to music on your PC (as opposed to privately... wait should you be listening to music while you're on the clock?); and how little are you willing to sell your Zune 80 for? ;-)

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Replied Jan 17, 2008

2 months since the Zune 2 was released and still no viable software updates. It's starting to appear that Microsoft doesn't care about catching up in market share or keeping new users. I sure wish I bought my Zune off Amazon, because then I could have returned it and bought a player with software that actually worked properly.

Attached is a lovely picture of how the retarded Zune software splits up compilation albums into individual albums based off artists. Sorry microsoft, splitting my "top 100 songs of 2006" album into 100 different ones is NOT how people browse music.



   
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Replied 1 year ago

After all is said and done. Apple will NOT and I repeat will NOT release an mp3 player that comes with an FM radio? Why? I also see some other mp3 players that will allow you to use your player to record live audio which is also a plus.

I guess if you have $250 to burn on an mp3 player you have choice A a unit that has 12 USABLE functions or B a unit with 8 USABLE function, you simply go for the one with 8 because everyone wants an Apple and loves paying money for each additional accessory and paying out their eyeballs when an accessory or power cord fails.

I think my choice is clear my next mp3 player will be the Zune 2nd generation.

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